NO SUBJECT

topic posted Wed, November 21, 2007 - 2:50 AM by  Christy
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I am really happy I just found this group. I decided against calling myself a hippie because it seems that everyone who associates themselves with a "hippie" these days does drugs and wears long skirts. Excluding marijuana (of course? (and mushrooms au natural), I really attempt to stay away from drugs. However, there are so many people who I associate myself with and who I grew up with that think just because they have dreads or they dress in patches they can be considered a hippie. It doesn't matter what you look like. Its more of an attitude. These same people are racist, homophobes. It's disgusting.I really hope everyone who is reading this can give a nice "Fuck off" to the counterculture fashion everyday. Please, don't ever for a minute believe that doesn't include the "hippie style" with the beaded headbands, the tie dye shirt and the gypsy skirts. Its not a fashion style, its not a drug choice, its not a decade. In my rationale it is a way of thinking. Love thy neighbor like yourself, do unto others how you would like done to yourself (?). The dictionary defines a "hippie' as someone who sought spontaneity, rejected established institutions and values, expressed love and compassion..... and then proceeds to describe their fashion sense..... Really? I'm pretty certain that this country's history has recorded that being a hippie is much more than a hemp necklace and a tab of LSD. Its more about loving each other and loving life. Fuck drugs, we have the ability to really impact the future. Yeah, I'm one big after school special, but I feel from the heart like you.
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Christy
Scranton
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  • Re: NO SUBJECT

    Mon, November 26, 2007 - 3:14 PM
    Hi Christy, I just found this tribe too...
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      Fri, January 4, 2008 - 10:32 PM
      Son of a sea biscuit. Twoplus years on Tribe and I finally run into this place. Get so sick of deadhead tribe discussions that end up...right where you're talking about. The overt homophobia..the addictions that people wear as a brand of honor...the store-bought attitudes. I'd rather be known as a dopeless hope fiend (and, yes, we have a tribe, too!) while working for peace through justice...without blinders, drugs....or a safety net.
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    Sun, February 10, 2008 - 2:00 PM
    I'm absolutely with the "it's an attitude" notion. I try to dress nice, although fashion sense is often difficult for me to grok. When I was in high-school my grandmother used to take me shopping for new clothes before school each year. One year I apparently committed a horrid sin in selecting pants in particular and a couple of girls at driving school tortured me over it, asking me specifically if I was emulating a circus clown and that all I needed was the giant red shoes. In retrospect it probably would have been a lot better to have had my sister make my clothes selections, simply because I really couldn't predict how people were going to react to my choices. She'd already gotten away from our family by then - great for her, not so good for me unfortunately. I've been researching autism for several months and talking with some professionals here in Portland lately because I believe I likely have Asperger Syndrome, which has over the years made it difficult for me to navigate social interaction. But through it all I still believe that people are fundamentally good and I try to help people whenever and however I can.
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      Sun, February 10, 2008 - 4:29 PM
      ....I've got this on again-off again thing for Jack Casady's 'tude in appearance. Meaning I wore platform clogs well into the '80's. Casady was the best dressed bass player in rock for years. How he could do that streamlined knit thing and play 5 hours nonstop is still a grande mystery. I understand he's sober now.....and still funny. We need more simultaneous sober and funny!
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    Re: NO SUBJECT

    Sun, March 9, 2008 - 2:24 PM
    I agree that "Hippie" is all about attitude, acceptance, love, free spirit, taking the path less traveled. As for the "Look", well, in the sixties it was for a time just tryin to be anti-establishment. Non-conformity, not dressing or getting your hair styled to fit in. I still have the long hair, clothes from the local goodwill, I don't support fashion or the rampat consumerism. I am no expert, nor do I do drugs, not even mary jane anymore, but on occasion, I will drink a beer or a sip of something stronger. Still jam out with friends and play in a band.
    I am not nor have I ever been a homophobe, I have several close friends, both male and female who are gay and proud. And I am proud to know them.
    Labels can be misleading and usually prove nothing in the long run. I am more conventional than I should be, but I still look like your average homeless street person, and have actually been told to move on when downtown in a nearby city! But in actuality, I am retired from a life in the military....
    But I will always love to see someone dressed in tye-dyes and long hair...... Those are good memories for me, but I lost a lot of friends along the way too, to drugs, in our endless wars....
    Peace & Hugs.......
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      Thu, March 27, 2008 - 12:18 PM
      Myself and a couple of friends are putting together a weekday drum circle in Los Angeles, I know several drummers and fire performers who are looking for things to do that don't involve a complete saturation in drugs or other mind-altering chemicals (alcohol) It is my personally held belief that there is a huuuuuuge gap in our scene in regards to events and gatherings that are explicitly (if not altogether) drug free. The idea being that you would set up a gathering with the express intent that it was to be a place where any outright display of drug usage is forbidden. This leads to many problems. Who would enforce this protocol? What should the people do who find it necessary to smoke herb? Should they just go to a place away from the fire and toke up?

      Anyway, I really enjoyed the content of this discussion thread and took a lot away from it. I would be interested in hearing from some of you concerning how you would go about setting up a drug free gathering without excluding those who would might benefit from being in proximity to such a gathering..?

      namaste
      • Re: NO SUBJECT

        Thu, March 27, 2008 - 5:42 PM
        The Dead scene became more difficult to 'each-one-reach-one' self-police (Hog Farm style...) as theaters became football stadiums and the self-defined values of 'dead heads' morph'd into something unsustainable. Size does matter. Wharf Rats made it work...but as an 'attraction', we were on a perpetual program of positive reinforcement amongst ourselves....

        Other thoughts?
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    Fri, April 4, 2008 - 2:47 PM
    "A hippie . . . is a member of a subgroup of a counterculture that began in the United States during the early 1960s. By 1965, hippies had become an established social group, and the movement expanded to other countries before it declined in the mid-1970s. Hippies, along with the New Left and the American Civil Rights Movement, are considered the three dissenting groups of the 1960s counterculture.Originally, hippies were part of a youth movement composed mostly of white teenagers and young adults, between the ages of 15 and 25 years old, who inherited a tradition of cultural dissent from the earlier Bohemians and the beatniks. Hippies rejected established institutions, criticized middle class values, opposed nuclear weapons and the Vietnam War, embraced aspects of Eastern philosophy, championed sexual liberation, were often vegetarian and eco-friendly, promoted the use of psychedelic drugs to expand one's consciousness, and created intentional communities or communes. They used alternative arts, street theatre, folk music, and psychedelic rock as a part of their lifestyle and as a way of expressing their feelings, their protests and their vision of the world and life. Hippies opposed political and social orthodoxy, choosing a gentle and nondoctrinaire ideology that favored peace, love and personal freedom,. . . They perceived the dominant culture as a corrupt, monolithic entity "that exercised undue power over their lives" . . Noting that they were "seekers of meaning and value", scholars like Timothy Miller describe hippies as a new religious movement. " This is an excerpt from Wikipedia, and there's lots more there. - Me and mine, we called ourselves freaks back then, shuddered away from the word hippie, which was then used as a derogatory term. i had the good fortune to be at woodstock, an experience i wish i could give in a little silver box to each and every one of the young 'hippies' of today, for the joy and the harmony sharing and love there was truly bliss. no, you don't need drugs. we used them in the 60's to open some closed windows in the collective consciousness that are now wide open to us all. ..

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